Sir Alf
6:22 Fri Jun 23
Re: Mark Noble
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He has been a terrific player for us in a series of mediocre and poor West Ham teams over the last 10 + years. But if we want to progress we need a better midfield option alongside Obiang. Noble will still play but is IMO at a tipping point where his lack of pace and height and physical strength will become too big a problem as he enters his early 30s because he will start getting even slower. In short he should not be a guaranteed starter. So then what are the other options? Kouyate who IMO lacks good technique with a football as shown with his passing accuracy and first touch / control. He also does not work hard enough and drifts out of so many games for long periods. He gets away with it because people recall a long busting run from time to time. The other option in the middle is one from Cullen and Fernandes. Both young and learning the game. Fernandes is inconsistent as is often the case with younger players and Cullen well we do not know if he can make the step up.
So we really do not have much depth do we in the all important central midfield. Add to that the club suggests they see no need to improve in this area.
Noble will continue to be the first name on the teamsheet and hence another season of "treading water" or flirting with relegation again awaits.
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toadinthehole
6:03 Fri Jun 23
Re: Mark Noble
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He's our captain He's shit He will play
Get over it
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Private Dancer
5:59 Fri Jun 23
Re: Mark Noble
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There are 3 sure things in life, Death, Taxes and Noble starting for West Ham.
He's Bilic's mate, don't expect any changes.
Noble annoys me. He thinks he's Mr West Ham, smug, useless fuck.
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claretandbluedagger
5:40 Fri Jun 23
Re: Mark Noble
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Stat comparison for anyone who cares.
Obiang slightly ahead on forward, Noble ahead on backwards. Noble also a fair way ahead on pass completion and key passes. So make of that what you will...
http://bit.ly/2tWyarT
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Alex V
5:25 Fri Jun 23
Re: Mark Noble
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Kouyate's passing generally isn't as reliable, no. Obviously aerially he is much stronger than Noble. Much less likely to be dribbled past. Very different players in many ways.
Unfortunately detailed info on forward passes isn't easily available - might make very interesting reading.
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Eggbert Nobacon
5:21 Fri Jun 23
Re: Mark Noble
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without him in the side
Since January 2015:
Played 11
Won 0
Drawn 4
Lost 7
Scored 10
Conceded 22
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,
5:19 Fri Jun 23
Re: Mark Noble
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Noble has played 347 games for WHU through the stewardship of at least five managers. I drawa massive conclusion from that.
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Eerie Descent
5:17 Fri Jun 23
Re: Mark Noble
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What are his passing stats compared to Kouyate, Alex?
Has Kouyate ever made a forward pass?
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Alex V
5:13 Fri Jun 23
Re: Mark Noble
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>>> Don't the stats speak for themselves regarding Noble and his positive influence on the team?
Not really.
The only statistically significant thing in Noble's stats that I've seen is his pass completion, which has been consistently high over a number of seasons. But of course the criticism of his passing is that it's often not really significant forward passes that he makes.
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grasshopper
5:02 Fri Jun 23
Re: Mark Noble
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Lily hammer, what an odd thing to say.
I can see your taking your role serious on the board of cunts
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E12Hammer
4:02 Fri Jun 23
Re: Mark Noble
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Was always an average Premier League player at best, and in times where average Premier League player was the best we could do then he was fine.
We should be aiming higher than just average now though.
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Pub Bigot
3:57 Fri Jun 23
Re: Mark Noble
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Don't the stats speak for themselves regarding Noble and his positive influence on the team?
I'm inclined to disagree with his detractors because he seemingly is more important then they realise. And considering last season was following his best season at the club, I think he's earned his right to prove himself as a worthy captain and a worthy starter.
He's in my XI alongside Obiang.
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Lily Hammer
3:56 Fri Jun 23
Re: Mark Noble
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(to the tune of The Blue Danube)
Der der der der der FUCK OFF, FUCK OFF!
Der der der der der FUCK OFF, FUCK OFF!
Der der der der der FUCK OFF, FUCK OFF!
Der der der der der FUCK OFF, FUCK OFF!
etc.....
and that's to grasshopper, not Noble, by the way.
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Fivetide
3:49 Fri Jun 23
Re: Mark Noble
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Excellent. Why hasn't anybody brought this point up before?
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grasshopper
3:23 Fri Jun 23
Re: Mark Noble
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Devonshire Cream Tea 3:05 Fri Jun 23
Bit harsh mate, his heart has always been in the right place, but his ability is holding the club back from progressing
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Coffee
3:11 Fri Jun 23
Re: Mark Noble
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Why have you given Cunt a capital C?
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Mr Kenzo
3:09 Fri Jun 23
Re: Mark Noble
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Sell the Cunt and give Cullen a chance
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Tony_Gale
3:07 Fri Jun 23
Re: Mark Noble
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Still think he has a couple more years as a first team starter. Played a lot of last season injured. His presence clearly makes a difference in games (Tottenham).
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Coffee
3:07 Fri Jun 23
Re: Mark Noble
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That's wasn't tea.
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Devonshire Cream Tea
3:05 Fri Jun 23
Re: Mark Noble
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Get him out of our club, he is a disgrace to the shirt. He should never play football or be let out in public ever again
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Coffee
3:03 Fri Jun 23
Re: Mark Noble
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Agent Scud 2:34 Fri Jun 23
When he retires, it'll probably be next to a river.
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